Guest Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 And if not fishing maybe a picnic blanket and some binoculars watching birds together. Lol Link to comment
Guest Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Honestly smule should do away with the tipping and with profile views and live video jams and anything else that makes me and other parents keep our kids off of smule. Ive always thought inbox messaging should be age restricted, a grown man should not be able to private message our children. Even a simple thanks for the gift message to anyone under 18 should be banned on smule. And smule wonders why half us parents on smule removed our children from the app, or only let them sing on our personal accounts so we can monitor the goings on. And have some peace of mind they are safe. Link to comment
SingingFool Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, DuetWithAlli said: Oh @SingingFool 🤗 I think many of us could have written this post 😂 well, I could have, anyway. Props for being honest. The main reason it’s an issue for me is that Smule is hyper competitive, and I don’t want other women to know that I look at their pages to compare the number of followers and joins they have on their songs, and have a good cry over it lol 😂 Thanks for chiming in too. We need to start a new thread called Smule Confessionals. 😆 jk! 1 Link to comment
manonthemoon Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 On 9/25/2024 at 9:11 PM, Wishchip said: I still need to test this theory a bit more, but I'm thinking "Profile Views" actually tracks when people view any recording you're in, and not just deliberate views to one's profile page. A friend of mine yesterday sent me a screenshot which showed I had recently viewed her profile page, but I actually hadn't. If anything, I may have viewed one of her duets, but I certainly hadn't gone to her profile page. Not like ANY of this matters, but there is a clear distinction between viewing random duets and intentionally going to someone's profile page to view their stuff. And if this isn't working as Smule says it's supposed to, it's going to cause a lot of confusion within the community. That said, I'm not updating my app for this feature, so I guess I'm stuck in Public mode. Time to go stalk as many of y'all as possible. Hahaha. I have tested about this, Your profile won’t go to the list if you randomly viewed someone’s duet / open call. it has to be a tap into their profile to actually goes to the list. 2 Link to comment
manonthemoon Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I have a mixed feeling about this new feature, it takes away the comfort of some users, if you decided to switch it to private mode, and you go to view your crush on smule / your favourite singers, they might be wondering who’s viewing them, especially you check them twice or more a day. This feature has been rolled out for almost 2 days, so far, as that person myself, I feel so uncomfortable whenever a private user rapidly checking my profile once every hour for 12 hours or more and it had me wondering who was it! It’s the only private user on my list. “Oh, you should’ve not care or should’ve turn it on private mode so you don’t need to guess who?” I need to see what I needed to see, but at the same time, you realising how uncomfortable you are to have stalker on your profile. I think they should’ve just remove this feature. It ruins your/others privacy. As a smuler from 2014, people way back then only focused to sing, the app used to be so fun, you don’t need to think the other things except to sing the moment you opened the app. But now it’s becoming more like T*k-T*k / Inst*gr*m / social media, with singing audios/videos in it. They killed its own uniqueness. Link to comment
GinnyO2 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I usually scroll through my following and check out invites of some faves I sing with or just click on my mentions through my profile to see what they have open. Better than scrolling endlessly on the invites tab. Now, I’m going to look like a stalker if I go back once a week without joining a song. Weird to have this. I miss normal Smule back to 2016… waw waw 1 Link to comment
manonthemoon Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 47 minutes ago, GinnyO2 said: I usually scroll through my following and check out invites of some faves I sing with or just click on my mentions through my profile to see what they have open. Better than scrolling endlessly on the invites tab. Now, I’m going to look like a stalker if I go back once a week without joining a song. Weird to have this. I miss normal Smule back to 2016… waw waw Yes! Especially somehow people might find that it’s upsetting them if we visit their profile and didn’t join or love any of their open calls, I don’t want that negative vibes that we give by walking away from their profile without giving them anything, especially for someone that keeps joining us but we didn’t join back. You see my point here, it’s a complicated feature, it has good and bad, but as an introvert person, it leans towards bad here for me. Lol. I might think how people feel too much here. i just don’t want people to see me as stalker whenever we check their profile, especially for our favourite singers. 1 Link to comment
Wishchip Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 1 hour ago, manonthemoon said: people might find that it’s upsetting them if we visit their profile and didn’t join or love any of their open calls, I don’t want that negative vibes that we give by walking away from their profile without giving them anything, especially for someone that keeps joining us but we didn’t join back. There was one lady who recently invited me to join her on a song. I didn't follow her and she didn't follow me. Normally I would have gone straight to her profile to see what she was about, but because of this Profile Views feature, I went only to her OC instead. In the event I didn't join her, I didn't want her to think "Soooo this guy clearly got my invite, but he checked out my profile and chose to ignore me. Well eff this guy, then!" 1 Link to comment
My2CentsWorth Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 All of those who want to check out smulers accounts can just go through the website and not log in. 😅 Why the need for this? 2 Link to comment
Guest Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Its not a matter of wanting to go on the main site and stalk a smuler that has you blocked. Its a matter of this feature was released on ios, giving ios users the ability to see who has viewed their profile. And giving them the opportunity to make their views private, before its ever released on android. And by the time it rolls around on android, all ios users will already be switched to private, so the android users wont have the same ability to see who viewed our profiles. Making it unfair to anyone paying for a vip membership that owns an android. As ios is always the testing ground when smule rolls out a new idea. Link to comment
My2CentsWorth Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Why is it termed with such negativity- stalking? Are we then stalking singers as well when we go to YouTube and specifically look for a singer? Or is it a different term - fans - since they are "officially" artistes? Why can't we just like a smuler's voice and want to hear their singing? People read so much into things nowadays. 3 1 Link to comment
Guest Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 If someone blocks you, and you enjoy their voice so much that you still find ways to still listen to their voice, i would consider that stalking. Now if a person isnt blocked, then no i dont think its stalking to listen to a particular voice. Link to comment
SingingFool Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 There are lots of reasons we might visit a smuler’s profile that are innocent, legit and are not creepy stalker-ish. People have given examples of them here. (Sometimes the person liked a song, followed us or invited us to an OC…we’re thinking about joining their OC, we’re considering if we want to follow them and we simply want to see what their about, if they like similar songs, if they have good smule etiquette, etc. Their profile contains a lot of info to help you decide if you will join a duet or follow.) A personal example…for my followees that have multiple OCs at any given time (the ones I like to join regularly) I like to visit their profile and peruse the options before I pick. Also as @My2CentsWorth points out, maybe you just enjoy their voice which is actually really flattering if someone is visiting my profile to hear little ol me sing? What? Aw shucks! ☺️ 😆Point is that there are a lot of reasons for visiting someone’s profile that are not stalker-ish but there’s no way of knowing someone’s intention and it can easily be misconstrued as “OMG! I’m being stalked!” or “I don’t want to give the impression I’m stalking them.” And what was normal smule behavior has now become a shame inducing thing, has a stigma attached to it. And now is causing people a lot of anxiety & stress both ways, for both the people viewing others profiles (who are now overthinking every action) and the people are seeing their profiles being viewed and wonder if they’re being stalked. Speaking for myself, curiosity won me over & it was fascinating to see a snapshot of who had visited my profile in last 90 days. But at the same time it was a little stress inducing to see the 2 most recent peeps who had visited my profile a lot in a very small amount of time. It made me a little uncomfortable…tho again it could be perfectly innocent and I don’t want to feel weird or stressed about it and have it affect my singing relationships. Anyway, I turned on the private mode bc I think it’s better just not to know or care…and am leaning toward this whole thing is a very bad idea. It overcomplicates an app that used to be a lot simpler and straightforward. *Also want to add…I don’t want to gaslight or be dismissive of the feelings of the people that feel stalked (because there actually are some instances of scary stalking on smule). Also another fair point is that you can always just go to the web browser to check out a profile unnoticed. (But that goes back to over complicating what used to be simple). 2 Link to comment
Guest Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 3 minutes ago, SingingFool said: There are lots of reasons we might visit a smuler’s profile that are innocent, legit and are not creepy stalker-ish. People have given examples of them here. (Sometimes the person liked a song, followed us or invited us to an OC…we’re thinking about joining their OC, we’re considering if we want to follow them and we simply want to see what their about, if they like similar songs, if they have good smule etiquette, etc. Their profile contains a lot of info to help you decide if you will join a duet or follow.) A personal example…for my followees that have multiple OCs at any given time (the ones I like to join regularly) I like to visit their profile and peruse the options before I pick. Also as @My2CentsWorth points out, maybe you just enjoy their voice which is actually really flattering if someone is visiting my profile to hear little ol me sing? What? Aw shucks! ☺️ 😆Point is that there are a lot of reasons for visiting someone’s profile that are not stalker-ish but there’s no way of knowing someone’s intention and it can easily be misconstrued as “OMG! I’m being stalked!” or “I don’t want to give the impression I’m stalking them.” And what was normal smule behavior has now become a shame inducing thing, has a stigma attached to it. And now is causing people a lot of anxiety & stress both ways, for both the people viewing others profiles (who are now overthinking every action) and the people are seeing their profiles being viewed and wonder if they’re being stalked. Speaking for myself, curiosity won me over & it was fascinating to see a snapshot of who had visited my profile in last 90 days. But at the same time it was a little stress inducing to see the 2 most recent peeps who had visited my profile a lot in a very small amount of time. It made me a little uncomfortable…tho again it could be perfectly innocent and I don’t want to feel weird or stressed about it and have it affect my singing relationships. Anyway, I turned on the private mode bc I think it’s better just not to know or care…and am leaning toward this whole thing is a very bad idea. It overcomplicates an app that used to be a lot simpler and straightforward. *Also want to add…I don’t want to gaslight or be dismissive of the feelings of the people that feel stalked (because there actually are some instances of scary stalking on smule). Also another fair point is that you can always just go to the web browser to check out a profile unnoticed. (But that goes back to over complicating what used to be simple). I agree with all the valid points you made, as i too also look at a profile to see what they are about before i decide to follow them or sing with them, or block them. However if you block me, and i go on the main site to view your profile i would consider that stalkerish. However if it is the one im interested in stalking my page i would find it flattering, and actually would encourage her to stalk my page hoping she sings with me lol and shes never been blocked. But ive blocked hundreds if not thousands of other people on smule, and i would find it creepy if they as they often do make a new account i havent blocked and continue to view my profile. Smule was so much simpler when i started singing on the app in 2017. Back then i even allowed my 5 year old daughter to have a page and sing. Now myself as well as loads of other parents i know will only let our children sing on our own personal accounts, supervised. Smh... Link to comment
My2CentsWorth Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Well, if one don't do video, don't give out personal info AT ALL via comments, don't respond to ANY chat messages, and just sing, then what does it matter if people come and "stalk" your profile? Problem is when people show their faces, want to be nice and all, that is when issue arises. This is a karaoke app. Sing for fun, for serious, up to you but don't make it an actual social thing. It's an app.For singing.Karaoke in your mobile phone. Still just 2 cents worth of my thoughts. Feel free to add your many cents. 1 Link to comment
TheMajesticM Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) On 9/27/2024 at 11:24 AM, My2CentsWorth said: Why can't we just like a smuler's voice and want to hear their singing? People read so much into things nowadays. Agree! People indeed overthink. There are many reasons to view profiles, as mentioned previously. I was going to turn on my privacy settings but decided against it. I only have sing-related reasons for viewing profiles, so people can think what they want. I wish people would keep their minds out of the gutter. Edited October 1 by TheMajesticM 4 Link to comment
Wishchip Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 I’m trying to think if there’s a correlation between this Profile Views feature and the Tipping feature. Is there a benefit to Smule giving users this information, as a way to help entice TikTok people and other “internet famous” people over to Smule? Something like: “As a VIP member, you can now see exactly how many visits your Profile Page has received. As tipping is currently only available by accessing someone’s Profile Page, the total number of visits to your page means you have the potential to receive that many donations through tipping! Become a VIP now!” I haven't really thought much about this. I'm just thinking about Profile Views from a marketing standpoint (other than one more bullet point to help sell VIP memberships) and Tipping was the first thing that came to my head. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? 1 Link to comment
Rogerlococo2020 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I see some people saying we should hurry to switch to private mode; that's so funny. Smule's intention was only to encourage more interaction among users. The intention was good, but many people on Smule have become very cold towards each other, and it’s getting worse. There’s no interaction at all except for singing. Do you think that’s good? Smule wants us to make friends with each other, but some people are still trying to maintain the wrong idea🤣 This isn't what Smule is meant to be about; the platform aims to encourage friendships and connections Link to comment
Rogerlococo2020 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Is it really something to be ashamed of if you’ve viewed someone’s profile? Why are people so scared to let others know they’ve visited? It’s just a part of engaging with the community. Viewing someone’s profile can show interest and curiosity, which are natural human behaviors. Instead of hiding, we should embrace the opportunity to connect and interact with each other. Plus, being able to see who has viewed your profile can help prevent stalkers from invading your space, as you can choose to block anyone who seems strange in your viewer list Link to comment
Rogerlococo2020 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I can tell you guys that the list of who has viewed your profile isn’t accurate at all. I have 6,000 listeners and 700 followers in 30 days, but only 300 viewers in the same period. Is that even possible? It also doesn’t show how many times a person has viewed your profile in a day or over three days, so don’t take it seriously; it’s not accurate at all. The best part is that you can identify your stalkers if they create new accounts just to view you, in case they didn’t log out to check your profile Link to comment
BuhBye Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 I won’t be renewing my VIP. That update/announcement made me feel weird for looking at someone’s profile for invites. And I don’t use Smule to feel weird. I use it to release stress…this made me feel stress. I was willing to pay for an app that was a happy place for me…I won’t pay for this vibe. I prefer to go to profile page invite tabs over the feed, and it would certainly look creepy on profile views. Gee, thanks Smule! I can’t see how this will increase “engagement.” Even in private mode you feel like a creep. I immediately said to myself when this was rolled out “I will never visit a profile again.” What actually happened is that I haven’t used Smule since. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. It is toxic social media behavior…this neediness to see exactly who visits. The need for stats for something that is just supposed to be fun. And the fact that Smule so carelessly rolled this out with no warning. Users should have had the opportunity to go private BEFORE it was fully implemented. When I learned of it, I didn’t even look at who viewed my profile. I’m not that desperate and chose to show others respect for privacy. I went “private” and then left the app. This combined with the obnoxious new feed and tipping just shows the new direction. I suppose those who like TikTok will like these changes. Just not for me. 1 Link to comment
SingingFool Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 10/1/2024 at 7:28 AM, Wishchip said: I’m trying to think if there’s a correlation between this Profile Views feature and the Tipping feature. Is there a benefit to Smule giving users this information, as a way to help entice TikTok people and other “internet famous” people over to Smule? Something like: “As a VIP member, you can now see exactly how many visits your Profile Page has received. As tipping is currently only available by accessing someone’s Profile Page, the total number of visits to your page means you have the potential to receive that many donations through tipping! Become a VIP now!” I haven't really thought much about this. I'm just thinking about Profile Views from a marketing standpoint (other than one more bullet point to help sell VIP memberships) and Tipping was the first thing that came to my head. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? By the timing of these releases, it does kinda make you wonder if there’s any correlation between Tipping feature and the Who’s Visiting Profile feature. There’s nothing obvious coming to my mind, but if I think real hard 🧐…maybe the Tippee Smulers (those hoping to receive tips) get some insight$ if they check who is viewing their profile and can discern some pattern between the viewers and the tippers or a pattern between what songs they OC to the kind of singers viewing their profiles & who’s flashing the dollar bills? But anyway that is quite a stretch. For whatever reason they decided to do Tipping and Viewing, these latest changes are just making Smule weirder and weirder. 👎🏽 Link to comment
opentype Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 In German we have a saying: Nothing is eaten as hot as it is cooked. It means, it’s usually not as bad as it seems at first. I’m on Smule for 9 years now and I can still do the same things that I did and loved when I joined at first. There is always a lot of drama around every little feature change, but substantially nothing has really changed. I still sing audio and video duets with people from all over the world. That’s it. The new feed doesn’t change that. The tipping feature doesn’t change that. The profile views feature doesn’t change that … and so on. 3 1 Link to comment
Duets.fm Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 9 minutes ago, opentype said: In German we have a saying: Nothing is eaten as hot as it is cooked. It means, it’s usually not as bad as it seems at first. I’m on Smule for 9 years now and I can still do the same things that I did and loved when I joined at first. There is always a lot of drama around every little feature change, but substantially nothing has really changed. I still sing audio and video duets with people from all over the world. That’s it. The new feed doesn’t change that. The tipping feature doesn’t change that. The profile views feature doesn’t change that … and so on. Ha. Nice saying. Link to comment
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