Smule Unfollow: How to beat the Follow to Unfollow tactics by spammers

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When you are a beginner you see so many strange people following you. Naturally you follow them back and the next day that person unfollows you! Since smule does not notify you when unfollowed, you end up having that person in your following list. As you gather more genuine followers and followings it becomes extremely difficult to weed out these spammers. Smule's Following list marks every singer as 'Following' where instead they should have marked singers as 'Following you' or not. This is smule's way of deceiving you by withholding the relevant information. 

You have to open the Followers list on their website and from the Following list in the app you have to unfollow such spammers carefully matching both the lists. They could have made it so simple with just a single list with singers marked as Following,  Follower or both. But they won't do it after so many requests on this topic

If you are bothered by this arrangement, try the following link.

http://smuleunf.000webhostapp.com

Type in your smule username and see your Following list with your Followers marked with a down arrow.

If more than 500 people follow you, this list might show some singers as not following you. Otherwise it should help you to clean up your Following list. If you have more than 500 followers, you just shouldn't bother who follows you or whom you follow!😁

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Or instead of going through all that trouble, don’t follow accounts just because they followed you. Not just on Smule, but on every web service that has that feature. 

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38 minutes ago, opentype said:

don’t follow accounts just because they followed you

As I mentioned, it is natural  that you follow someone who follows you. Also there are so many singers you follow to receive their invite notifications and also hope that they also will follow you and will join with your invites. After a time you lose interest in that singer but the name remains in your Following list cluttering your notifications from other singers. Ideally I would like a mutual following and joins between each other to be a healthier state of things than you just joining others all the time. And it is truer as your followers/ing lists approach 500.👍😁

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35 minutes ago, sdr said:

As I mentioned, it is natural  that you follow someone who follows you.

 

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1 hour ago, sdr said:

As I mentioned, it is natural  that you follow someone who follows you. 

I don't do follow for follow. I can join a person without following him/her cos I join for the songs,  not the singer. 

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The way I avoid this is to assume that all accounts that follow me are fake, unless they followed me after joining one of my songs. After an account follows me, I block and unblock the account, which removes it from my followers.

*not all of them are fake … some are chasing high numbers of followers, and they deserve to be removed and not followed back anyway.

Edited March 31, 2022 by DuetWithAlli
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10 minutes ago, DuetWithAlli said:

The way I avoid this is to assume that all accounts that follow me are fake, unless they followed me after joining one of my songs. After an account follows me, I block and unblock the account, which removes it from my followers.

Oh, that’s an extreme measure. It assumes that the “good guys” discover you by looking for songs, then join you and then follow you for more joins. I certainly do that as well, but I discover people in other ways as well. For example, from seeing collabs with people I already follow. I would then follow this new person without instantly joining anything and in your case, you would kick me out again, even though I would have been a sincere follower with good intentions. 

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4 hours ago, opentype said:

Oh, that’s an extreme measure. It assumes that the “good guys” discover you by looking for songs, then join you and then follow you for more joins. I certainly do that as well, but I discover people in other ways as well. For example, from seeing collabs with people I already follow. I would then follow this new person without instantly joining anything and in your case, you would kick me out again, even though I would have been a sincere follower with good intentions. 

Yeah, I would say most of my Smule management techniques are kind of extreme and may not be for everyone. I used to check out all accounts that followed me to see if they were fake or unfollowers, but that is too time consuming. 

For me personally, I estimate there’s a less than one percent chance that a person will listen to my collab with someone else and actually want to follow and sing with me ... it just doesn’t happen. This might not be a good method if people would want to sing with you after listening to you. But for me, it works. Maybe I shouldn’t be proud of this lol 

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6 hours ago, opentype said:

 I discover people in other ways as well. For example, from seeing collabs with people I already follow.

I do that too, but don't follow them.  I just see what they have opened and join them if I know a song.  

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1 hour ago, DuetWithAlli said:

 

For me personally, I estimate there’s a less than one percent chance that a person will listen to my collab with someone else and actually want to follow and sing with me ... it just doesn’t happen. 

Just curious, don't you listen to other smulers duets? Not as in joins with you, but their collabs with other smulers.

There are some great smulers that I enjoy listening to.  Best when their voices blend oh so well, it's really music to the ears.

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12 hours ago, My2CentsWorth said:

Just curious, don't you listen to other smulers duets? Not as in joins with you, but their collabs with other smulers.

There are some great smulers that I enjoy listening to.  Best when their voices blend oh so well, it's really music to the ears.

No, I honestly don’t. That’s just not how I use Smule. But I understand that everyone interacts on Smule in different ways. That’s fine, I just want people to be happy hehe.

I occasionally listen to duets of people I already sing with singing together, kind of like an unofficial group. But I don’t have any interest in listening to people outside of my circle.

 

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13 hours ago, My2CentsWorth said:

Just curious, don't you listen to other smulers duets?

Rarely.

Visiting other profile occur when some interaction is there between a singer and myself. It could be a follow, a join, a like or a comment in one my recordings. Another situation is when I search for a song and try playing a few the recordings listed.

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On 3/31/2022 at 10:31 PM, DuetWithAlli said:

The way I avoid this is to assume that all accounts that follow me are fake, unless they followed me after joining one of my songs. After an account follows me, I block and unblock the account, which removes it from my followers.

Your criterion certainly feels right. But there will be genuine follower who after listening to your songs want to join you on a song in future. You will be hurting that singer by unfollowing immediately and that singer probably never will follow you.

A better option is to wait for a few days or a month and see whether that person joins you. I joined a singer on a couple of songs and that singer followed me from the first join. It was just the day before yesterday, almost 6 months after,

On 3/31/2022 at 10:31 PM, DuetWithAlli said:

 

that person joined two of my invites immediately one after another, just to cite an example.

On 3/31/2022 at 10:31 PM, DuetWithAlli said:

*not all of them are fake … some are chasing high numbers of followers, and they deserve to be removed and not followed back anyway.

That is true and I am in total agreement. All interactions in smule should be mutual otherwise the whole idea of a singing friend is lost. There are who sings with anyone just for the fun of singing, but majority love a follow back, comments in the recordings and and mutual joins. This is especially true if one is a beginner. 

Edited April 2, 2022 by sdr
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On 4/1/2022 at 3:59 AM, DuetWithAlli said:

I used to check out all accounts that followed me to see if they were fake or unfollowers, but that is too time consuming. 

If you feel one account is fake, unfollow immediately. Otherwise, you could stop right there and wait for a month or so before unfollowing. That will save you the block/unblock and the ire of that singer for being unfollowed.🤔 

But smule in its infinite kindness🤪 will not let that singer know about your unfollow.

Edited April 2, 2022 by sdr
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On 4/1/2022 at 3:59 AM, DuetWithAlli said:

 

On the contrary, that is how new followers find you, I think. They would have listened to a collab of yours with one of their friends or just with anybody they found during a song search.

On 4/1/2022 at 3:59 AM, DuetWithAlli said:

This might not be a good method if people would want to sing with you after listening to you

A bit confusing. Isn't it how people find you and follow you? A follow back for your following that person is taken for granted.😁

 

Edited April 2, 2022 by sdr

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On 4/1/2022 at 5:27 AM, My2CentsWorth said:

I just see what they have opened and join them if I know a song. 

After joining, smule gives the option to join the opener. I guess you skip that option and maybe after several joins you will decide to follow that person. But most people follow immediately. Smule is very partial here because for the opener it doesn't give an option to follow the joiner after listening to the join. Otherwise this disparity between followers and followings wouldn't have become so big as in most cases.🤔

Edited April 2, 2022 by sdr

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On 4/1/2022 at 5:31 AM, My2CentsWorth said:

There are some great smulers that I enjoy listening to.  Best when their voices blend oh so well, it's really music to the ears.

I wonder how you find these great smulers. Anyway, won't you join any of the singers immediately? For me that will be the most natural thing to do.😁

Edited April 2, 2022 by sdr

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1 hour ago, sdr said:

I wonder how you find these great smulers. And do't you join any of the singers immediately?  For me that will be the most natural thing to do.😁

I search by songs, and listen to people sing. 

I do join one or two, but some singers are out of my league and my voice don't do justice to the duet. 

I'd say if some of these smulers cut an album, I'd buy it!

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2 hours ago, sdr said:

After joining, smule gives the option to join the opener. I guess you skip that option and maybe after several joins you will decide to follow that person. But most people follow immediately. Smule is very partial here because for the opener it doesn't give an option to follow the joiner after listening to the join. 

If someone joins me,  and I like the voice, I click on his/her profile and listen to a few more songs, and if I like what I hear, I'd follow the person.  

Not that difficult to navigate to the person's profile that you need an option button to press to follow right? 

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3 hours ago, My2CentsWorth said:

Not that difficult to navigate to the person's profile that you need an option button to press to follow right? 

Certainly not difficult. Just a click extra.😁 

But when you join, you are asked to join the opener. That is what I mentioned as partiality. They could have been consistent in treating opener and joiner equally.

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20 hours ago, sdr said:

On the contrary, that is how new followers find you, I think. They would have listened to a collab of yours with one of their friends or just with anybody they found during a song search.

A bit confusing. Isn't it how people find you and follow you? A follow back for your following that person is taken for granted.😁

 

I don’t feel like that, no. I rarely have friends of friends follow me. I don’t know if they’re not listening or just don’t like me, maybe both. People always seemed to find me by joining my ocs. I followed back anyone I thought I would like to sing with too. Now that I don’t have vip, I don’t really see any reason why someone new would follow me. So now it’s more like 100% of the accounts that follow me are fake or fishing for followers.

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21 hours ago, sdr said:

If you feel one account is fake, unfollow immediately. Otherwise, you could stop right there and wait for a month or so before unfollowing. That will save you the block/unblock and the ire of that singer for being unfollowed.🤔 

But smule in its infinite kindness🤪 will not let that singer know about your unfollow.

I don’t want the fake accounts in my followers. It’s a maintenance thing. It’s pretty obvious they’re fake because I have to go to their profiles to block them, and if there are no recordings, it’s a bot. Or if they’re claiming to be a prince or Keanu Reeves.

And if the person has like 50 thousand followers and only following 94, yeah they’re just going to unfollow me. There was one time I was shocked when someone with that many followers followed me and actually joined my songs. But that’s part of the 1% hehe

Yeah, it’s nice of Smule not to tell people you’re trying to get rid of them. They won’t even tell people when you block them. I used to think people cared about being unfollowed and whatnot, but I don’t think anybody really cares anymore.

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1 hour ago, DuetWithAlli said:

They won’t even tell people when you block them. 

Person will know cos if they followed you and got blocked after that, they can't see your name on their Following list (assuming they take note of that)

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In my Opinion:  I don't care if people unfollowed me or blocked me I wont even investigate why... just move on because they are not the only one who supports you or even "they never joined your OC" just a waste of time checking everyone.. If someone joined me I joined them back if they are VIP and also to my regular joiners..Just be Happy and enjoy singing..

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9 hours ago, Isa_Bella said:

I don't care if people unfollowed me or blocked me I wont even investigate why..

Smule Unfollow is aimed at relatively new singers with upto a few hundred followers. It helps to tidy up your Following list so that the invites from singers who do not follow you and no recordings together do not clutter your invite notifications. If you have a 1000 or more Followers/ing you never would want to go through that lists even for once.

This aims to create a mutual interaction based Followers/ing lists.👍